Podcast episode 17: talking about systemic racism with harry morgan

In this episode, Joe sits down with longtime friend and software developer Harry Morgan to talk about how they as white people are confronting their complicity in racist systems and structures and learning to accept accountability and make changes that can make a difference in our communities.

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Podcast Episode 16: Storytelling with Drew Willard

In this episode, storyteller and artist Drew Willard joins Joe for a conversation about the power of good storytelling and how it can give us a clearer picture of the life and way of Jesus than we often experience in traditional formats.

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